Feel Me Don't You

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Is this Jamie person a guy or a girl? I thought it was a guy, but now I’m starting to think he/she sounds like a chick. I guess it doesn’t really matter to Dave anyway.

hey i’m not into guys. only women and dragons.

Corey is a guy.

Is this Corey person a guy or a girl? I thought it was a guy, but now I’m starting to think he/she sounds like a chick. I guess it doesn’t really matter to Dave anyway.

Oh Dave, Dave, Dave. Don’t you get it? It’s always about me, and by extension, my projects. You didn’t realize that? How adorable.

Who is this Corey guy and why does he think this entire thread is about him and/or whatever stupid shit “The Union” is?

So you’re all saying the same thing, then: when The Union shows up, so do the crowds. Cool, got it.

If anyone were to take the time and do a little punctuation research they might find out where it’s common to use the period outside of the double quotes. Somewhere on the other side of the pond. Somewhere they speak English and drive on the wrong side of the road.

And you would be wrong Jared. Direct your attention to one of the HWI guys… the last batch of Trish & Clay addresses all come from the same IP.

That is nice of you Jonathan.

I think its Pete.

i just want you all to know that it is not i who is posting as Trish, I wouldn’t so something so “hurtful”. Im just wanting to keep my slate clean. Did someone say meat!

I’m assuming it’s obvious to everyone else that I’m an obsessive compulsive failed improv comic who has nothing better to do with my time than to write comments on a fellow failed improv comic’s blog using perfect grammar.

I love meat!!!

Trish, you may have some of my delicious meat. Please consider this offer and let me know within 24 hours. Thank you and good day.

Oh I don’t know why I tried to hide it. I just LOVE meat! And not the kind that doesn’t make babies if you know what I mean…

I’m assuming it’s obvious to everyone else that the “Trish” in #36 isn’t me. Evidence:
—Lowercase i (twice)
—Period outside quotation marks
—No apostrophe in I’m
—Comma-splice in last sentence
—Use of exclam and “meat”

Details matter, people.

Someone’s trolling for a mushroom stamp.

This Matt guys sounds the hottest of them all. I think i will take you up on your offer posted in the comments for the post “Strength”. Please provide me with Matt’s email and cell, im gonna hit that piece of meat up!

You guys are making comedy not stupid again. Yeah! Now are there any hot chicks in comedy? Other than Pete and his lesbian hair cut I haven’t seen any yet. Pete, is Ellen your comic idol?

I’m with Jared. Your work friends sound hot. Except for the ones who call us losers. Dude, we don’t need reminders.

Clay -

“We didn’t owe money at the end of the night, and in this business, in this town that is a success, for now.”

You have no idea how many times I have mentally followed that line with your next line:

“You know what, I am done with this.”

So what we’re all saying here is that every time The Union performs in Kansas City, the place sells out.

I like these guys.

I just was commenting that you guys are losers, I didn’t need you to cite more evidence to back up my conjecture.

Jonathan – I probably reminded you three times. Why? Because you asked me to remind you when Kevin Dilmore was performing again. If you never planned to see the show, all you had to do was say so and I would have dropped it.

Jamie – We have to pay to get the theater, so if we can’t sell enough seats to cover the cost, we have to pay for it out of our own pockets. To date, Tantrum has had to do that twice to the tune of around $5 per person.

JJared, you ass. Don’t compare me to Matt or especially Pete. I’m not a bitter old man.

I think if someone uses free advertising and nets attendees that means it would be a success in that aspect. If being assaulted by the same advertising all the time offends you then what’s stopping you from writing hate mail all the time? Do you want the TV industry to fail? Radio? You inhumane bastard. Next thing you know, Jack Links isn’t going to be able to use Sasquatch and Geico is going to be without their pitchman the Gecko.

Comedy… stupid AND expensive.

I just now found time to read through this… so let me get this straight…

“We didn’t owe money at the end of the night, and in this business, in this town that is a success, for now.”
- Clay (Pete’s improv comedy nemesis)

so… most of the time, you guys pay a place to host your shows bring in people to buy the venue’s food and drink, then end up owing money at the end of the night.

What a bunch of losers.

Had her. 7 out of 10.

I want to meet that Trish chick. She sounds kinda hot.

Comedy is stupid.

Pete,

How many times did you remind me of your November Tantrum show? I remember at least three.

Jared – Matt, Dave, Jonathan, Jamie, and Brandon are former co-workers of mine. Chances are, when you see a thread being jacked, it’s a combination of two or three of them. It’s funny that you ask that as several people have approached me recently asking if you’re real or if I know you personally.

Clay – I don’t think anyone is arguing with you that the show was a success. You’re absolutely right in that you all made people laugh and made money at the same time – success! Perhaps lost in the morass is that the majority of the audience was comprised of family and close friends – not random fans grouped via FB – who were likely to attend the event even without the exorbitant notifications. Without setting up a formal poll – thank you, but no – I don’t know of another way to prove that those “day of” people decided to attend based on the flood of reminders. It seems more likely that they already wanted to attend after the initial invite and first reminder – or possibly even couple of reminders, but were enormous procrastinators. I don’t know of anyone who would argue that the Friday after Thanksgiving isn’t a performance gold mine – Trish knows it, Hollywood knows it, every business knows it. Feel free to continue hurling insults. It wouldn’t be my blog without someone hurling insults.

Granted, there were seats available. I knew of four that got lost, had never been there before. Some others had other things come up. Going into the show, people told me that it was sold out, so I believed that.
In association with Facebook efforts, word of mouth and personal invites, we had about forty people there to see Loaded Dice. It was successful enough that had we rented the space on our own, and did a sixty minute show, we would have netted the same amount of cash. I consider that to be a success. We didn’t owe money at the end of the night, and in this business, in this town that is a success, for now.
You know what, I am done with this. It is silly that I got worked up about it.
I apologize for what I said, except for the insults. It wouldn’t be a post from me unless I hurl insults!

Who is Matt? Are he and Brandon just different versions of your starwarsfan alias?

Clay,

First of all, I thought I made it perfectly clear that my complaint wasn’t about one person or even one site. Take a pill and settle down because this post isn’t a personal attack on you. Ideally, it would be great if whatever media site allowed you to control how many times someone could invite you to (or remind you about) an event, a game, a Cause, & etc.

Secondly, you do realize that 2 people walked in around 1/4 through the third set and there were still seats open? It was a great crowd, but it wasn’t a sell-out. There were plenty of no shows that allowed those that asked you the day of the show if they could get in, thus padding your numbers (I would estimate that less than 20% were there strictly because of a FB invite – you be the judge on whether that’s considered a successful marketing stratagem).

Third, I write whatever I feel like here and as Matt points out, I invite discussion. Sometimes people agree with me and sometimes they don’t. When they don’t agree with my opinion, it doesn’t make their opinion wrong, it just makes it different.

Nobody’s saying you didn’t contribute to the audience. There were a lot of reasons that show succeeded, including some we discovered last year when Tantrum and the Union sold it out.

I just can’t stand by when someone mentions a show I am involved in and starts to downplay the reason we sold out to the fact that it was a holiday and we had guests in town. It took time and effort to build that audience. I am personally insulted because I worked hard at it and the results showed.

Man, Clay—you get ugly when you disagree with people.

But really, the only thing you’ve said—repeatedly—that genuinely pisses me off is that I think the way I think because of what Pete thinks. I respect Pete’s opinion, but mine is based on a hell of a lot more than his blog.

Your methods work for you and your audience. GREAT. We’re all very happy for you. Nobody is saying not to market, or not to use Facebook…just that maybe they don’t want to do it exactly the same way.

WAAAHHH!
Quit your crying. Sick of it. If you don’t like what you get in your mailbox, then quit Facebook, or remove the offending person (me) from your friend list.

The problem here is that you fail to see the big picture. My group of friends actually likes frequent reminders of upcoming things, or so they tell me. So I market to the group as a whole, not singling out the Oh My Pussy Hurts few that may not like it. Geez… now you’ve got Trish posting about it. Who next?

We had a sold out show the other night. I counted twenty (possibly more) that were in attendance strictly because of my Facebook efforts. Some of them decided JUST THAT DAY to come because they asked on Facebook about a waiting list. I told them to come on down and they enjoyed the show.

So don’t tell me that we had a sellout because it was Thanksgiving and Corey and Mo were in town and the stars had aligned or any other lie like that. Sure people were in town, we had special guests… but no one would have come if it had not been for getting the word out. That is just good marketing to let people know about your show. I firmly believe that we would not have sold the show out had there not been several Facebook reminders sent.

Now put in a fresh tampon and bitch about something else.

FYI, Causes itself doesn’t do anything except give 501(c)(3) organization’s a quick, confirmed conduit to Facebook in order to spread awareness. You can’t get set up through Causes without a valid 501(c)(3) status.
There IS a function once you click through into the cause that allows you to donate money to the cause. Scant few people probably choose to donate money due to Causes. Its usually an org they already identify with in some manner.

Rabble rabble rabble…

Wow, it’s like you’re inside my mind, Matt. Thank you for the new goal in both word count and new direction for the story.

Pete isn’t happy unless he’s upset or depressed about something. So let’s think about this from his perspective. To be truly happy when you’re upset or depressed about something, you should really share it on the internet and invite feedback. Then when you are challenged to look at the funk from a different -positive- perspective, you climb into your old man hole and surround yourself with your negative beliefs and energy. When you become warm and toasty with your own misery, pull a rock into the hole to block the light and comfort you in your tranquil bitterness and rigidity. Finally when you are sated with your misery, post another 6000 word creative writing post projecting your continued loneliness and yearning for that internet chick.

You just seem very bitter about the whole Facebook thing, I find it funny. A part of me thinks you’re not really bothered by it at all, but thought it would make for an interesting blog topic.

I don’t know really. I just don’t feel you. Old man.

Clearly, Jared. However, just because this is the latest incident, don’t delude yourself into thinking it is the only one. I didn’t specify this event for just that reason. It goes beyond a single show. It goes beyond a single individual. Make no mistake, I don’t feel anyone did this to anger me personally. It’s just a result of another flawed system like telemarketing or direct mail advertising. Oh, and if you honestly believe that the sold out status of this show is a direct result of any social media marketing efforts, I invite you to provide proof – proof that it isn’t a result of great timing with the holiday; proof that it isn’t good word of mouth from past performances on this date; proof that there isn’t a large number of family and close friends attending; proof that people aren’t coming to see Corey & Mo in this rare, special engagement. I would posit that it’s a result of a combination of the reasons I mentioned.

If asking not to be spammed constitutes being an old man, then so be it.

Jared, you act as though I’m trying to hide something or talk behind someone’s back. In point of fact, I’ve said nothing in this post that I haven’t said directly to those who choose to promote via social networking before. I’m not making a personal attack on anyone am I? If any of them feel that I am, I will certainly apologize to them face to face.

I’m not sure why you seem so upset about me linking to this post from any of the social media sites since I have linked to all posts for quite awhile now. The link is provided so if they, like you, choose to visit the site, they can by clicking the link. It’s a convenience. If they read the post, they, like you, can choose to comment.

Clearly CLEARLY you are talking about the Loaded Dice/Spite/Union show tomorrow, which had notifications from all three troupes (a little less from the Union) coming out the wazzo this week. But who cares? From what I hear the show is about to be sold out. What does that say about the process? Sounds to me like a good idea.

“I could also simply remove myself from the source of it all or even from the sites entirely. Does that correct the problem?”

Yes, that is exactly what you should do. Otherwise keep acting like an old man and complain about it.

“I don’t want to have to remove myself from my friends’ groups because I do want to support them, but if people are going to repeatedly point that loaded gun my way, I’m going to do whatever I can to dodge that bullet. Don’t force me to stop supporting you.”

That’s pretty harsh for just being an opinion. Here’s my opinion on that – You’d probably be doing that group a favor by just leaving their group. Rather than sticking around and complaining about it on your blog for them to possibly read, sometime after you’ve posted a link to it on Facebook.

Matt & Barb, it seems you’re missing the distinction here between information and spam.

Please come watch Tantrum. Here’s a bookmark. And a big poster. Monkeys with Hand Grenades. Comedy City. Improv Festival. Vote for us for best comedy team.

These are all separate entities for individual events. If I said, “Please come watch Tantrum.”, it was said once a month for an individual show not four or five times (unless someone specifically asked to be reminded, which happened on occasion).

If someone was offered a bookmark (with a calendar of our shows), they were given only one. If the bookmark was thrown away (or lost/misplaced), I didn’t give them another one unless they asked for it.

No one received a big poster. Those were hung in areas where people might congregate and they could choose to read it or not.

The same goes for MWHG, CC, KCiF shows – one time notifications/reminders a month for different shows.

When I asked people to vote for Tantrum as the best comedy team, it was done once.

Let me be clear here in case you’ve forgotten, I don’t object to people informing me about their event/joining their group/whatever or even receiving a reminder from them for a single event (even if it’s on a monthly basis as is the case with shows). I object to six for the same event/joining their group/whatever. And when that number happens within a short time frame (like within a week), it turns from a notice into an annoyance (at the least) if not harrassment. Am I the only one who feels this way?

Jared, you’re right it’s certainly easier to turn a blind eye to the whole situation. Does that correct the problem? No. If your pet pees on the floor, do you just ignore it? When Collin retaliated by hitting his classmate, did you look the other way?

I could simply turn off every notification from a social media site and, after I login, I could select all the items in my Inbox and delete them without another thought or click ignore to every notification. Does that correct the problem? No. I want to know otherwise I wouldn’t have joined the group/cause/site/whatever. By opting into your group, I’m allowing you to notify me, not spam me.

I could also simply remove myself from the source of it all or even from the sites entirely. Does that correct the problem? No. Again, see the last paragraph.

Yes, each post gets linked once (unless the site is acting up and it gets duplicated) on several social media sites where you can choose to click on the link or not.

As always, this is simply my opinion. Feel free to agree or disagree (or even agree to disagree) as you see fit.

Like I’ve said before, It takes less effort to ignore than it does to complain.

By the way, didn’t you send this post out as a link on Facebook?

So basically you feel inundated with requests that you deem ridiculous.

OK…

You yourself acknowledged that you have to power to discontinue these requests. Just do that. No one asks me to validate their weapons or to pet their guinea pigs any more because I simply made the decision to disallow those things. I, myself, don’t see it as a problem.

That said, you really can’t argue with Matt’s comment.

it’s not the size of the poop that matters, it’s what you do with it

Please come watch Tantrum. Here’s a bookmark. And a big poster. Monkeys with Hand Grenades. Comedy City. Improv Festival. Vote for us for best comedy team.

Hooray for you! Now if you would post something about those pesky telemarketers! I have had six calls so far today. What good is the “Do not call registry”?